Hopkins vs Toney

[Obama]

Originally Posted by Intellectual 1

If a war were to break out in the ring...Toney's defense is by far the most fit for it.

That's a good point. Chess match, defense favors Hopkins slightly. War, defense favors Toney greatly.

[The Executioner]

Originally Posted by Intellectual 1

Of course you do

I do...you comparing Nunn to what would happen to Hopkins...how dare you

Originally Posted by Mr Burke

Hopkins has better workrate, but Toney is bigger puncher. They are both slick and Toney's punches would have slowed Hopkins a bit throughout rounds...Damn, I'm not really sure, it plays out differently all the time in my head.

A primed Hopkins was a pure beast and scrapped with many heavy handed MWs...like Obama said Toney's best chance is by SD because it would be difficult for Toney to pressure or impose his will on Hopkins' style

[Mr Burke]

Ex, Int, drop your toughts at Hagler-Hopkins thread.
http://www.sweetboxing.com/showthread.php?t=3204

[general zod]

Originally Posted by Obama

From the Jones fight onward Toney never regained his former form. His CW and HW resurgence (where he was just about as good as he could possibly have been at that age) is suspect to the "magic" of Freddie the Dope Coach Roach.

I take it you dont believe that Toney only roided for the Ruiz fight?

[Obama]

Originally Posted by general zod

I take it you dont believe that Toney only roided for the Ruiz fight?

Didn't like Roach's answer to using the juice for that fight. "It should have been out of his system by then". He basically said it's ok to juice for training purposes. Pretty sure that's what Pacroid is doing now. How else could the man train hard enough to burn off 8000 calories a day? Large Heavyweights take in less than half of that.

[Mr Burke]

Originally Posted by Obama

Didn't like Roach's answer to using the juice for that fight. "It should have been out of his system by then". He basically said it's ok to juice for training purposes. Pretty sure that's what Pacroid is doing now. How else could the man train hard enough to burn off 8000 calories a day? Large Heavyweights take in less than half of that.

Michael Phelps eats 12000 calories per day and he eats all he wants. Steroid user or swimming is so much more better for burning calories than boxing. And I think I've read Pac eating 7000 calories per day.

[general zod]

Originally Posted by Obama

Didn't like Roach's answer to using the juice for that fight. "It should have been out of his system by then". He basically said it's ok to juice for training purposes. Pretty sure that's what Pacroid is doing now. How else could the man train hard enough to burn off 8000 calories a day? Large Heavyweights take in less than half of that.

There is a lot of things about Toney that seems strange to me. During that Holyfield fight he seemed to have a lot more energy than usual, he was even on his toes more often than usual and that was with him fighting at the then career high of 217 lbs.

His physique was radically different from the Robinson fight to the Jirov fight

As for Paquiao, there are many things about him that make no sense, his physically better now at the end of his career than at any previous time, when it really should be the exact opposite.

On topic: I think it is possible that Hopkins could outbox Toney, using the same strategy that Griffin used in Toney-Griffin I